Wednesday, July 27, 2005
Left Mobilizes Against Common Enemy
The only problem is that it's not Islamic terrorists or even the Republican party. Instead it's the DLC.
See QandO:
See QandO:
Who knew that Hillary Clinton's call yesterday for party unity within the Democrat party would fracture it even more?Naaah. See this Common Dreams article on the dire threat the DLC poses to peace, justice and the American way ("Bowing Down To Those Who Undermine"):
Come on, tell me? Who knew?
It would seem, given the party's almost total ineffectiveness (except in an obstructionist sense) that such a call would be welcomed and considered earnestly.
More food for thought about the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) and the future of the Democratic Party...Can you imagine if an organization existed that purported to speak for Republicans, yet whose entire premise undermining the conservative base of the Republican Party? Do you think GOP presidential candidates would be flocking to address that organization's meetings? The answer, of course, is no, they wouldn't - and you can bet the GOP leadership would crush that organization before it ever got off the ground. But on the Democratic side, the story is far different.The Washington Post seems a little dazed:
Democratic presidential contenders go suck up to the DLC, an organization whose for the last two decades has done everything it can to undermine the Democratic Party - even going to great lengths to attack Democratic presidential candidates it doesn't like.
Long a revered figure by many in the party's liberal wing, Clinton (D-N.Y.) unexpectedly found herself under attack after calling Monday for a cease-fire among the party's quarreling factions and for agreeing to assume the leadership of a DLC-sponsored initiative aimed at developing a more positive policy agenda for the party.Is it me or did the Washington Post just write that the problem was barking moonbats? Anyway, DU has its own opinions about the article. Here's one:
The reaction highlighted the dilemma Democratic politicians face trying to satisfy energized activists on the left -- many of whom are hungering for party leaders to advance a more full-throated agenda and more aggressively confront President Bush -- while also cultivating the moderate Democrats and independents whose support is crucial to winning elections. The challenge has become more acute because of the power and importance grass-roots activists, symbolized by groups such as MoveOn.org and liberal bloggers, have assumed since the 2004 election.
The reason she is losing support (Yes, what you see on this board is she is LOSING support she previously had!) is because people are paying attention to her record and the company she keeps.and another:
Wining and dining with WIPRO (Indian Outsourcers) is *not* populist. Supporting CAFTA (someone here mentioned she did not vote for it, how convenient as everything else she does shows she is big on "Free Trade" repub ideas.
It has become obvious to many that she has a "blood lust" for the presidency. I don't want people who are so intent on their own power. Her actions indicate to me she will sell out to corporate power. Heck she pretty much already is!
I love HillaryIn response to the above:
She is very fair, and it's a mistake for the democratic party to move as left as it has.
The Democratic party has not "moved to the left"and another response:
Arrg!
So many talking points! The Republicans have been so successful at framing and ostracising words.
The DLC dems are trying to move us to the right the party has NOT moved to the left.It does seem to be getting hot.
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Hillary is very smart, but she may be tone deaf. Howard Dean is there because he's a radical representing the element in the party that believes the DNC sold them down the river. The radicals have been saying that for at least 8 months and, like the Muslims who refuse to believe that their religion has been hijacked, Hillary thinks the heart of the party is in the center. It ain't and it hasn't been since 2000. I am very surprised, but no biggie, she still has time to move back to the Left. But reports say that she was a Republican before 1970 and she could move back there, lots and lots of liberals have done so.
But where would that leave the Dem party. If it loses the battle to appeal to the centrists, what is the party's future?
I don't know whether you are correct that the heart of the Democratic party is not at the center, but if it isn't who can craft policies that appeal broadly to the American people?
Isn't the role of the parties to represent the electorate. I realize there will be times that they will have to get out in front and craft a policy to present to the electorate, but that is what the Democratic party hasn't been doing.
I mean, maybe Hillary is tone-deaf to the Democratics but in tune with the voters. If that's so, shouldn't the Democratic party ought to pay attention to her?
I don't know whether you are correct that the heart of the Democratic party is not at the center, but if it isn't who can craft policies that appeal broadly to the American people?
Isn't the role of the parties to represent the electorate. I realize there will be times that they will have to get out in front and craft a policy to present to the electorate, but that is what the Democratic party hasn't been doing.
I mean, maybe Hillary is tone-deaf to the Democratics but in tune with the voters. If that's so, shouldn't the Democratic party ought to pay attention to her?
It is quite astonishing- and telling- that the media refuse to understand Hillary Clinton's call for various factions of the Democrat party to stop shooting point blank at each other is anything other than a smart thing to say.
I'm no fan of Hillary, but hers is the only reasonable voice coming out of the dem party.
She's a lot smarter than they are- and may prove to be a formidable opponent.
It will be hard for her adversaries- and voters- to knock what is common sense.
I'm no fan of Hillary, but hers is the only reasonable voice coming out of the dem party.
She's a lot smarter than they are- and may prove to be a formidable opponent.
It will be hard for her adversaries- and voters- to knock what is common sense.
You know, Mama, if the criticism had any merit whatsover, well, Hillary would not be portrayed the way she is.
It's a helluva thing when MOR, GOP base types, look at the news and say, 'hey, that makes sense.'
The truth is we need to be prepared for the likes of Hillary to try to reclaim the Dem base, lost when the dems tossed them in favor of Hollywood.
It's a helluva thing when MOR, GOP base types, look at the news and say, 'hey, that makes sense.'
The truth is we need to be prepared for the likes of Hillary to try to reclaim the Dem base, lost when the dems tossed them in favor of Hollywood.
You know, Mama, if the criticism had any merit whatsover, well, Hillary would not be portrayed the way she is.
It's a helluva thing when MOR, GOP base types, look at the news and say, 'hey, that makes sense.'
The truth is we need to be prepared for the likes of Hillary to try to reclaim the Dem base, lost when the dems tossed them in favor of Hollywood.
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It's a helluva thing when MOR, GOP base types, look at the news and say, 'hey, that makes sense.'
The truth is we need to be prepared for the likes of Hillary to try to reclaim the Dem base, lost when the dems tossed them in favor of Hollywood.
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