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Tuesday, July 05, 2005

Nancy Pelosi Must Go II

To reiterate, I am horrified that a woman this clueless about the affairs of government holds the position and the power that she holds. There is a minimum level of knowledge about public affairs required for the post of House Democratic Leader, and it is clear that Nancy Pelosi doesn't have it. I am commenting on her press conference last week. So, continuing the series by quoting from the press conference (part I is here):
Q Later this morning, many Members of the House Republican leadership, along with John Cornyn from the Senate, are holding a news conference on eminent domain, the decision of the Supreme Court the other day, and they are going to offer legislation that would restrict it, prohibiting federal funds from being used in such a manner.

Two questions: What was your reaction to the Supreme Court decision on this topic, and what do you think about legislation to, in the minds of opponents at least, remedy or changing it?

Ms. Pelosi. As a Member of Congress, and actually all of us and anyone who holds a public office in our country, we take an oath of office to uphold the Constitution of the United States. Very central to that in that Constitution is the separation of powers. I believe that whatever you think about a particular decision of the Supreme Court, and I certainly have been in disagreement with them on many occasions, it is not appropriate for the Congress to say we're going to withhold funds for the Court because we don't like a decision.
Well, duh. She doesn't understand the question? Or maybe she doesn't understand the proposed legislation, which is quite an odd thing for the Democratic Leader of the House. The questioner, suppressing the urge to say "duh, woman", tries again:
Q Not on the Court, withhold funds from the eminent domain purchases that wouldn't involve public use. I apologize if I framed the question poorly. It wouldn't be withholding federal funds from the Court, but withhold Federal funds from eminent domain type purchases that are not just involved in public good.

Ms. Pelosi. Again, without focusing on the actual decision, just to say that when you withhold funds from enforcing a decision of the Supreme Court you are, in fact, nullifying a decision of the Supreme Court. This is in violation of the respect for separation of church -- powers in our Constitution, church and state as well. Sometimes the Republicans have a problem with that as well. But forgive my digression.

So the answer to your question is, I would oppose any legislation that says we would withhold funds for the enforcement of any decision of the Supreme Court no matter how opposed I am to that decision. And I'm not saying that I'm opposed to this decision, I'm just saying in general.
Okay. Cough. She claims that the Republican bill (which only says that Congress won't fund takings of property for economic development) is "nullifying" the Kelo decision in "violation of the respect for separation of church -- powers in our Constitution, church and state as well". Can you believe this? One would think she is trying to be rhetorically clever and to paint the Republicans in a bad light, if she weren't babbling about violating the separation of church and state. But she is. This woman does not have a clue! And she's dead wrong about the Republican bill violating "enforcement of any decision of the Supreme Court", because the decision of the Supreme Court was that they would leave the decision as to what was "public use" up to the legislatures, of which Congress is one. This is classic, drooling ignorance of the basics of our constitutional system of government.

Does this woman memorize talking points by rote? The separation of church and state is a concept rooted in the First Amendment, and the ruling in Kelo addressed the interpretation of the words "public use" in the takings clause in the Fifth Amendment. This is stuff we covered in fifth and sixth grade in the public school I attended. This is a quote from the decision showing just how badly she misunderstands the ruling of the court:
The disposition of this case therefore turns on the question whether the City’s development plan serves a “public purpose.” Without exception, our cases have defined that concept broadly, reflecting our longstanding policy of deference to legislative judgments in this field....
For more than a century, our public use jurisprudence has wisely eschewed rigid formulas and intrusive scrutiny in favor of affording legislatures broad latitude in determining what public needs justify the use of the takings power....
As the submissions of the parties and their amici make clear, the necessity and wisdom of using eminent domain to promote economic development are certainly matters of legitimate public debate.24 This Court’s authority, however, extends only to determining whether the City’s proposed condemnations are for a “public use” within the meaning of the Fifth Amendment to the Federal Constitution. Because over a century of our case law interpreting that provision dictates an affirmative answer to that question, we may not grant petitioners the relief that they seek.
So what the Supreme Court said was that the decision properly belonged with the legislatures, and during the oral argument Congress was mentioned specifically:
JUSTICE BREYER: Justice Douglas says there that as long as it's an objective within Congress and legislature's legitimate grant of power, they can do it, I mean, as long as there's a -- so why does there have to be a limit within that broad limit?
MR. BULLOCK: Well, Your Honor, the limit is that there cannot be takings for private use.
JUSTICE BREYER: Of course, there can't, purely. But there is no taking for private use that you could imagine in reality that wouldn't also have a public benefit of some kind, whether it's increasing jobs or increasing taxes, et cetera.
That's a fact of the world.
And so given that fact of the world, that is law, why shouldn't the law say, okay, virtually every taking is all right, as long as there is some public benefit which there always is and it's up to the legislature.
Going back to Pelosi's maniacal comments, where and how is Congress going to affect "enforcement" of the Kelo decision, which announces that it is up to the legislative bodies to decide whether a particular taking is for public use. What is there to enforce? The woman is making no sense whatsoever. But it doesn't stop there, she's like the Energizer Bunny on meth:
Q Could you talk about this decision? What you think of it?

Ms. Pelosi. It is a decision of the Supreme Court. If Congress wants to change it, it will require legislation of a level of a constitutional amendment. So this is almost as if God has spoken. It's an elementary discussion now. They have made the decision.

Q Do you think it is appropriate for municipalities to be able to use eminent domain to take land for economic development?

Ms. Pelosi. The Supreme Court has decided, knowing the particulars of this case, that that was appropriate, and so I would support that.
Back to God again, so I can only conclude she is still brooding about the separation of church (the Supreme Court) and state (Congress), and believes the Republicans are trying to abrogate the First Commandment of Kelo. And again, what the Supreme Court decided was that it was up to the legislative bodies to decide what was an appropriate taking. Dear Nancy, Congress is a legislative body. You are a legislator. God (a.ka. Justice Stevens) took pains to note in the decision that:
For more than a century, our public use jurisprudence has wisely eschewed rigid formulas and intrusive scrutiny in favor of affording legislatures broad latitude in determining what public needs justify the use of the takings power.
Okay? God said it was up to you, sweetie. Let's review:
Here endeth the second lesson. Further examples of the sterling wit and wisdom of Nancy Pelosi will be included in a third installment.

Comments:
"Stupid as a rock" seems about accurate. Heck, nothing you could say could possibly be as offensive as the fact that the Democratic party probably believes that this woman having the House leadership post is "outreach" to American women.

This has got to be one of the worst slaps in the face Democratic women have ever gotten. There are intelligent, functional Democratic women. I'd also be happy to accept a normal Democratic male that knows something about the country's business and occasionally makes sense.

Don't you believe that this woman holding this post is having a really bad effect on the party? In the past I have preferred to swap my vote around just so one party doesn't get settled in well enough to steal too much money. Well, I'm not getting many realistic options these days, am I? No way was I gonna vote for Hanoi John.
 
It wasn't that long ago that the democratic party had a very strong and well represented conservative element of the party. For some reason that I will never understand they decided that for the sake of party unity they would no longer tolerate that level of descent in the ranks. They are paying a price for that by being the minority party and I think she is representative of that. Say what you want about her she does always toe the party line.

The republicans, frustrating as they can be, do at least have some prominent dissenting members that they are willing to share the spotlight with.
 
Well, Pelosi was the one who thought it was great that the Democratic moderates lost their seats in the last election, wasn't it?

And you are right - she is all party line, all the time. I wouldn't mind that so much if it weren't that the party line for the Dems now seems to have lost all mooring in reality on several important issues. In her position, she should have an influence on developing the party line.

Well, maybe this sort of babbling makes sense to her constituents, but it is turning off moderates who are at all politically aware across most the country. This is foolish.

Aren't parties supposed to be about dissent, discussion and debate?
 
The sad truth is that on SS, the Pelosi's, et al, are in the drivers seat.

When it is clealy and plainly evident that SS is crapping out, the Dems will lay the blame on Bush' doorstep- that he wasn't willing to deal- and that he 'hid' the truth from the people.

Like every bit of good political theater, the veracity of the matter is irrelevant. The story line will be that a)Clinton recognizd the problem and the GOP would not deal and b)Bush hid the truth and the GOP would not deal.

Mark my words- in the next incarnation of the SS 'sky is falling' shuffle, the dems will make the SS issue WORSE than it actually is- and place the blame squarely on the GOP.
 
You know, I think that may be the intended strategy.

But you know what? On this one I'm going to believe that old Honest Abe was right, and that you can't fool all of the people all of the time. I don't think it's going to fly.
 
unfortunately "it's the republican's fault" has sort of become the party motto. To be fair it's not just a democratic party tactic but right now it seems to be the only one they have.

It makes them look extremely bad to anyone paying attention because you cant help but feel that they are simply wanting everything to go bad so they can blame it on somebody else.

We need better. If the average voter would pay attention and demand it we would get it too.
 
People who are rolling around in glee every time Howard Dean rants or Pelosi drools because they think it's so great for the Republicans ought to think twice. A party with no effective opposition doesn't do well either.

In Washington they are all pretty well insulated from reality. Only the friction and debate keeps the air fresh - this is hurting the Republican party too.

I will be honest and admit that I don't see Pelosi as holding any other goal higher than that of slamming Republicans.
 
I opt with "Stupid as a rock!" (... not wanting to offend rocks, but?)

It's scary that the democrats have so many of these "well placed" idiots ... ( not that there's anything wrong with being an idiot and knowing that one are one. ;) )

Looking into this woman's eyes shows a lot of her personality ... I believe I can barely make out ... the mirrors through the smoke ...

Be safe!
 
Sarge, darned right it's scary!

I used to think this woman was more sly and cunning, but after reading the press conference I realized "dumb as a rock" is a much more feasible explanation.
 
Yeah, but when you are 66 and getting a pittance of social security and having trouble getting medical care you may think back and realize this was not such a bonus after all!
 
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